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My bad boy from the Hood. Really?

Posted by Debbie Gould on April 14, 2009 at 4:08 PM

As most of you know, I'm on vacation in Florida visiting my daughter who is in the Air Force stationed at Hurlburt Field, in Fort Walton Beach. She lives in Navarre which is right up the road. This afternoon, my 23 year old son and his friend took my Explorer to Wal-Mart. On the way back, they were pulled over by a sherriff for speeding, 40 in a 25, right before the turn to my daughters street.

Now we live in Vermont. Hick town and all, but we are right on the boarder of NY, so my sons buddy is from NY. My son's buddy was driving, they pulled over immediately and waited for the officer to come up to the car. Apparently she had been following them for a few minutes, because before they new it,  3 more cars with blue lights pulled up. They were pulled out of my car, and searched. 2 sherriffs and 2 detectives searched my car and the kids, and started questioning them about what gangs they were from. They had my son take off his shirt and show them the tatoo on his back.

And arm. Jay is the first one in this photo.

The tat on his arm says BIRD, his nickname and the one on his back says GOULD. Gang material fo sho. Give me an effin break. Yes they broke the speed limit, what right did the police have to interogate them like a bunch of thugs. Why you ask? They were wearing White t-shirts and black basketball shorts topped off with fitted hats so any rational thinking person would of course assume they were gun carrying gang members from Vermont.

It gets even better...Anyone who lives in NY, knows that a NY drivers licence is thin and flimsy. It's not hard plastic like alot of other states. So they naturally assume it's a fake. Jay's buddy sat in the back of the cruiser for over 45 min while they harrassed him into "confessing" it was a fake. EVEN THOUGH after they finally ran it, it came back valid. They told him they were taking him to jail and we would have to bail him out because he was carrying a fake ID. Yes he told them it was a fake because the wouldn't accept it when he said it was real. So now, even though he has a vaild drivers licence through NY state, they are still saying the one he gave them was fake and are going to take him to jail anyway because it's a felony to give an officer a fake ID. We where home when Jay called and said they were having trouble right down the road, so we hoped in her car and went down there. My daughter, who was taking names and badge numbers was irate. When they found out there really was a sister they were visiting and a mother traveling with them, they decided to be "NICE" and just give him the speeding ticket and not take him to jail, but not until we were there for another half an hour while "blue shirt" the detective walking around with his chest puffed out acting God like, harrassed the boys some more and put Jay's buddy through the ringer. They actually asked my son what gang he was in in Vermont. He's like. "I live in the woods." They didn't believe him. The female sherriff was decent, I actually showed her pics of were we lived to show he wasn't being a smart ass, but the detectives wouldn't even speak with me or my daughter. They did let Jay's friend go with the speeding ticket, but kept his licence. IT'S REAL!!! But they still insist it's fake. OUTRAGOUS! Never have I been pulled over for speeding, been pulled out of the car, searched, had my car searched, made to show all my tatoo's, or questioned about the gangs I belong to. So here is a pic of my hoodlums.

Till my next rant, peace out. Debbie

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12 Comments

Reply anonymous
5:35 PM on April 14, 2009 
Sort of terrible Debbie. I'd be irate too. Some law enforcement officer's let their power go to their head. It's pathetic. Everyone speeds at one time or another.
Reply Val Pearson
5:41 PM on April 14, 2009 
OMG! THAT IS TOO FUNNY! I know the whole situation is not funny but the pic above is! Make them give back the license! Write a letter to the governor. Make as much stink as you can without getting a lawyer.
Reply anonymous
5:41 PM on April 14, 2009 
Um, maybe the whole fire thing upped his status in the gang, Debbie, and now police is on the look-out for him. :D
Seriously, I hate cops who think they're sooo smart and abuse their power. Well, unless said cop is six feet, with great abs and knows how to use handcuffs. You can't give in to generalizations, you know?
Reply Renee Cryer
7:13 PM on April 14, 2009 
I am, so sorry it sucks when you are fasley accused. I was 7 months pregnant and looked like I could have been carrying triplets I was so big from water retentiona nd place I was working for had been broke into. The robber had crwaled in through the drive thru window.... now there was no way I could imagine to crawl in through the window regadless of my flexibility. They took me in for question and was hookd up to a poligraph machine... the police was like we have to question everyone. I said look at me, I cna't lift my leg up that high with this belly in the way.... yet I was down there over an hour.... I had braxton hicks from being so nervous and mad... I think they wanted, in your son's case, their names in the paper.... that way they look like big shots... we have some around here like that...
Reply anonymous
7:30 PM on April 14, 2009 
Oh Deb,
What can I say your fam always gives you the best stories to write.... well I hope therest trip goes smoother from now. Take care chickee.
Ginny
Reply anonymous
7:32 PM on April 14, 2009 
Hey, Deb --You've got a couple of real bad-ass-looking hoodlums there, I mean, shouldn't they have "stained" shirts or gold chains or something, and heck, what hood-worth-his-salty image would be caught dead in front of "members" in FLIP-FLOPS? Huh?

Just remember, these kinda pricks (whether they're male or female) are exhibiting a (full) lack of self-security - or else they're trying to come off "badder" than real bad-asses -- heck, apparently they don't even know what real bad-asses are..... or they wouldn't embarrass themselves as such. Jeez! ??

Sweet hugs, hon. Hug those boys, too. They had to be terrified. (even if they won't admit it.
-Jo
Reply Julie Robinson
12:32 PM on April 15, 2009 
Hey there Deb,

I feel for you. My son will be 18 in a month and likes to pose in pics like yours for fun. Now I know that every traffic pull over can be a potential life threatening situation to police, and I think the police do a fantastic job. So your story really upsets me, both for the bad experience y'all had to go through and for the bad rap this gives police.

However, these sounded like the stereotype hick deputies you see on t.v. Obviously there's a reason for these stereotypes!! Sounds to me like they needed some money. Or they wanted to get his name registered in their criminal database??

I showed my son your story. I wouldn't be surprised if your son and his friend had gotten defensive, which of course would make it worse! My son was very indignant. He said the police can't do that and y'all should sue for harassment.

I don't believe in suing the police, though. They do have a hard job. Personally, I would try to see what they did with his license as far as criminal activities are concerned and maybe ask for a written letter of apology to the boys to keep for your records in case anything should ever come up later.
That wouldn't be too much to ask as opposed to a lawsuit!

Hugs to you all.
Julie
Reply Julie Robinson
12:39 PM on April 15, 2009 
Oh, and by bad rap, I mean that it makes the whole force look bad because of a couple of idiots and that these idiots can sully the positive image of the police (and the good they do) for your son and his friend. Actually for you and your daughter too!
Julie
Reply anonymous
3:52 PM on April 15, 2009 
Hey Debbie,
One of my favorite quotes is the one by Tom Clancy: The only difference between fiction and reality is that fiction has to make sense. Odds are you couldn't get away with writing something like this 'cause people wouldn't believe cops could be that stupid!
When I was a teenager, I had a tattoothat showed while wearing a tank. A summer party got busted and one of the cops made a beeline right for me. I know it was because of that tattoo (it was a tiny little rose). Ironically, his younger partner at the time is now a lieutenant and is consulting with me on my current WIP.

Enjoy your vacation,
Jessi
Reply Debbie
4:23 PM on April 15, 2009 
Julie Robinson says...
Hey there Deb,

I feel for you. My son will be 18 in a month and likes to pose in pics like yours for fun. Now I know that every traffic pull over can be a potential life threatening situation to police, and I think the police do a fantastic job. So your story really upsets me, both for the bad experience y'all had to go through and for the bad rap this gives police.

However, these sounded like the stereotype hick deputies you see on t.v. Obviously there's a reason for these stereotypes!! Sounds to me like they needed some money. Or they wanted to get his name registered in their criminal database??



I showed my son your story. I wouldn't be surprised if your son and his friend had gotten defensive, which of course would make it worse! My son was very indignant. He said the police can't do that and y'all should sue for harassment.

I don't believe in suing the police, though. They do have a hard job. Personally, I would try to see what they did with his license as far as criminal activities are concerned and maybe ask for a written letter of apology to the boys to keep for your records in case anything should ever come up later.
That wouldn't be too much to ask as opposed to a lawsuit!

Hugs to you all.
Julie

I would never go as far as a lawsuit. Frankly, I think there is way to much of that these days. Ridiculous lawsuits wasting taxpayers money. But the police WERE wrong. He now has no ID because they took his even though it was valid. An apology and his license back is all I'm asking for. Deb
Reply Julie Robinson
12:53 AM on April 16, 2009 
BTW, congrats on Mountains Echo and Infidelity now being out in print!
Julie
Reply Julie Robinson
1:00 AM on April 16, 2009 
Absolutely, Deb!! I'd still get that apology in written form on their letterhead, signed by their deputy or whoever was at fault. And I agree with Val---do what it takes to get that apology letter.
Best of luck. :-)
Julie

Renee, that's terrible and to be pregnant with all that going on. It's a real shame.
Jessi, that is too funny.